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Ikzelf vind het een schande dat Vemma kinderen wil betrekken in MLM , maar ja het geld moet natuurlijk ergens van af komen e
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[ archief ] Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
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Vastgoedhandelaar
- Berichten: 35
- Lid geworden op: 24 nov 2007 15:10
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Heeee, daar hebben we onze gefrustreerde badip-er weer.....
Leg je Vemma-syndroom toch naast je neer, man en ga ondernemen!
Als jij je steeds laat leiden door het verleden, ziet jouw toekomst er zeer somber uit!
Leg je Vemma-syndroom toch naast je neer, man en ga ondernemen!
Als jij je steeds laat leiden door het verleden, ziet jouw toekomst er zeer somber uit!
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
heet je nu in een keer vastgoed handelaar , je lijkt me meer gefrustreed dat je weer achter me aan komt of lukt het niet zo met je vastgoed of je vemma business.
Mijn toekomst ziet er zonnig uit hoor daar maak ik me niet druk om .
ik help in iedergeval de mensen niet de zelfde fout te maken als ik deed door dat stelltje oplichters.
Maar ja daar weet jij misschiens meer van als ik als je ook tot die kliek behoort.
Trouwens je kunt nu ook bij scholen gaan werven
prettig weekend
Mijn toekomst ziet er zonnig uit hoor daar maak ik me niet druk om .
ik help in iedergeval de mensen niet de zelfde fout te maken als ik deed door dat stelltje oplichters.
Maar ja daar weet jij misschiens meer van als ik als je ook tot die kliek behoort.
Trouwens je kunt nu ook bij scholen gaan werven
prettig weekend
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Ach Badip! Start een Poll over Vemma maar zit zelf in de Xango-business. Allemaal één pot nat. Jij speelt de advocaat van de duivel, en dat geeft mij geen goed gevoel. Ik denk dat het beter is dat jij deze poll verwijderd.
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Geplaatst op 06 Mei 2008 14:14 door Cyntia51
Ach Badip! Start een Poll over Vemma maar zit zelf in de Xango-business. Allemaal één pot nat.
Hier ben ik het mee eens, je maakt Vemma-zooi zwart om Xango-zooi aan te prijzen.Zoals Cyntia51 al schreef, allemaal 1 pot nat.Rotzooi blijft rotzooi.
Mvg Jor.
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Vastgoedhandelaar
- Berichten: 35
- Lid geworden op: 24 nov 2007 15:10
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Hey badip, nog bedankt voor de scholentip : Ik werf nu bij kinderdagverblijven. Werkt als een trein. Ook de knuffels van de kids stappen massaal in Vemma 
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jongens en meisjes dat ik in xango zit dat hebben mensen er van gemaakt en dus als ze het zo zien krijgen ze het ook zo .
ik ben gewoon een slachtoffer van Vemma Europe en hun illegale praktijken niets meer niets minder en ik ben echt niet de enige.
het gaat me niet zo zeer om het produkt het is zeker niet slecht alleen aan de dure kant .
het gaat me er om dat ze email adressen hebben vervalst , ze website en paswords hebben veranderd dat ze met hun tengels bij mijn prive gegevens kunnen hierdoor heb ik een nieuwe creditcard moeten aanvragen.
dat Vemma Europe en sommige uplines misbruik maken van hun machts positie daar gaat het om .
mensen weten niet waar ze aan beginnen aan het Vemma compensatie plan kost de meeste gewoon een hoop geld heb je vragen hierover stel ze dan .
ik ben gewoon een slachtoffer van Vemma Europe en hun illegale praktijken niets meer niets minder en ik ben echt niet de enige.
het gaat me niet zo zeer om het produkt het is zeker niet slecht alleen aan de dure kant .
het gaat me er om dat ze email adressen hebben vervalst , ze website en paswords hebben veranderd dat ze met hun tengels bij mijn prive gegevens kunnen hierdoor heb ik een nieuwe creditcard moeten aanvragen.
dat Vemma Europe en sommige uplines misbruik maken van hun machts positie daar gaat het om .
mensen weten niet waar ze aan beginnen aan het Vemma compensatie plan kost de meeste gewoon een hoop geld heb je vragen hierover stel ze dan .
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nettewerker
- Berichten: 27
- Lid geworden op: 07 jun 2008 21:01
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
dat ze de producten afnemen (klnt worden) is tot daar aan toe, maar dat ze ook distributeur kunnen wordeb, is echt schandalig!
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Ik heb er geen worden voor.
Laaste nieuws de extravaganza stelde weer net als verlede jaar niets voor zelfs met de gratis kaarten die ze weggaven was het een aanfluiting . Vemma word niets en zal het ook niet meer worden daarom proberen ze nu Verve weer op de markt te zetten.
Ook al is de Vemma leugen nog zo snel de waarheid achterhaalt hem wel.
Alles draait om people business en als je deze mensen voor de gek houdt , bedriegt , dan maak je meer kapot dan je kunt opbouwen.
Vemma Europe is met zijn gedrag een aanfluiting voor MLM Land een schande wat dit bedrijf en sommige uplines flikke dit hoor ik nou al van zoveel mensen .
Laaste nieuws de extravaganza stelde weer net als verlede jaar niets voor zelfs met de gratis kaarten die ze weggaven was het een aanfluiting . Vemma word niets en zal het ook niet meer worden daarom proberen ze nu Verve weer op de markt te zetten.
Ook al is de Vemma leugen nog zo snel de waarheid achterhaalt hem wel.
Alles draait om people business en als je deze mensen voor de gek houdt , bedriegt , dan maak je meer kapot dan je kunt opbouwen.
Vemma Europe is met zijn gedrag een aanfluiting voor MLM Land een schande wat dit bedrijf en sommige uplines flikke dit hoor ik nou al van zoveel mensen .
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
B. K. Boreyko has built his Vemma business on a lie and he continues to lie. While B.K. Boreyko could not find one skeleton in any of the respective closets of our Corporate Team, he then personally attacked the credibility of XanGo distributors in his desperate attempt to stop the bleeding artery as his distributors leave New Vision in droves. Could you
ever, ever, ever imagine any one of our Corporate Team stooping so low? Dunn and Bradstreet have reported that New Vision is in steady decline and has lost 90% of its sales during the last eight years and continues to trend down! That's what drives New Vision and B. K. Boreyko to make outrageous and erroneous allegations. He is scared to death.
XanGo has always ignored B. K. Boreyko's feeble attempts to damage XanGo, however, the lies have become so repugnant that XanGo has issued a release citing the facts, facts that are verifiable and irrefutable. It appears that New Vision and two other MLM companies, petrified at the stunning and remarkable growth of XanGo, have collaborated in trying to destroy XanGo Distributors' belief and trust in XanGo and it's credibility, and trying to frighten them into joining their floundering companies. Do you really want to be involved with a company that is in steady decline and that has lost
90% of its sales during the last eight years? No thanks, I'm not into booking passage on the Titanic!
XanGo works to build their business by presenting a phenomenal product, a fair and lucrative marketing plan, and by exhibiting the honesty, integrity and good character of their Corporate Team in the way that they manage this
burgeoniong company that continues to shatter our industry's records. New Vision and these other two companies are like jackals, hiding in the bushes, seeking to destroy and tear down that which is good so that they can feed on the entrails of that which they seek to destroy. But they have as much impact as a flea on an elephant's buttox! When they approach you,
just flick them away with your finger tips, the way you'd flip a gnat off your arm. You are in the right place at the right time with the company of the Century. We are the standard bearers, we are the originals, we don't compare ourselves with anyone else because there simply isn't any comparison. XanGo is the envy and at the same time the pride of the MLM
industry. Gosh, I feel like breaking into song....."We are the Champions....." I am SO proud to be a XanGo distributor!!
Let me give you the background of this situation and the birth of New Vision and Vemma's mangosteen product:
Unfortunately, a prominent XanGo distributor , who was also a New Vision distributor (and may still be), used deception to elicit personal experiences from unsuspecting XanGo Distributors about the results that they have received from using XanGo's mangosteen juice and asked these Distributors for permission to be included in recording them for a CD, a
tool, she said, for XanGo Distributors to use. She lied to these distributors....do you think she told them, "I'm going to use your testimonies to fool people into believing that you are talking about New Vision's product." Hardly. These Distributors would not have uttered a word on that CD.
She then approached the leading experts on the Mangosteen and Xanthones, Dr. Templeman and Dr. David Morton, to ask them to participate in this CD wherein these personal experiences by XanGo Distributors would be also recorded. The good doctors themselves are truthful, intelligent, with great credentials, and are without blemish; anyone would be honored to have them remark in a positive manner on a product's ingredients. Is it any wonder that this distributor wanted them to be on her cd? I repeat, the XanGo Distributors and the doctors were told that this was a tool for XanGo Distributors to use in the building of their businesses. The Doctors were asked to share the research that they had done on the mangosteen, it's
pericarp and the precious xanthones contained therein. Drs. Templeman and Morton are not XanGo Distributors, and are not employed by XanGo, but have independently researched this fruit and the xanthones and studied mountains
of legitimate research from other scientists, doctors and researcher from around the world.
This CD, in fact, was produced to be introduced at New Vision's Convention even before being made available to XanGo Distributors.....this tool was launched along with New Vision/Vemma product! As a matter of fact, this distributor called Dr. Templeman and asked if he would speak at New Vision's Convention, and Dr. Templeman declined. This distributor and B.K. Boreyko approached Dr. Templeman again, offering him one dollar on every bottle of New Vision's inferior mangosteen drink sold if he would speak at the convention. Again Dr. Templeman declined.....emphatically.
The New Vision Convention took place and this XanGo Distributor was escorted to the stage and was given much applause for her participation in creating such a great tool that the New Vision Distributors could use to build their New Vision/Vemma business. New Vision and Vemma Distributors have used this tool to build their downlines because B.K. Boreyko sent CDs out to his Distributors, and as I have heard, even after a cease and desist was ordered by the court, he continued to distribute them.
New Vision's mangosteen drink was built on lies, built on the testimonials of XanGo distributors about XanGo's superior mangosteen drink. It was shocking to the good and unsuspecting XanGo Distributors who had generously given their testimonials to this cunning XanGo distributor who used them, lied to them, and took their testimonials and with B.K. Boreyko, passed them off as testimonials for Vemma! They were getting calls from New Vision distributors asking them when they joined New Vision, or in the instance of one woman, when she had decided to come back to New Vision!
They were absolutely furious at having been so deceived!!!
HOW COULD ANYONE TRUST AND BELIEVE OR WISH TO BECOME INVOLVED WITH A COMPANY WHOSE OWNER IS A LIAR, WHOSE PRODUCT IS BASED ON A LIE, WHO HAS LIED TO EVEN HIS OWN DISTRIBUTORS PRETENDING THAT THE TESTIMONIALS NEW VISION DISTRIBUTORS WERE LISTENING TO ON THE CD WERE FROM DISTRIBUTORS IN THEIR OWN COMPANY, NEW VISION?????? Lies, lies, lies and more lies spew forth from B.K. Boreyko. And what about the credibility of this XanGo distributor who was a participant and the author of this deception?
B.K. Boreyko's product has been reformulated numerous times, and he even had the audacity to send a representative to Wild Flavors and ask them to formulate a product for them!!!! Wild Flavors turned them down flat and said that they produce the mangosteen product for XanGo, exclusively. Wild Flavors is a 75 year-old multi-billion dollar company, whose honestly, reputation, and credibilty is legend worldwide. They weren't about to get involved with the likes of New Vision.
XanGo has responded to the latest barrage of lies from B.K. Boreyko in order to clear up the confusion that he is attempting to create.
Below is a statement from Gary Hollister, CEO of XanGo (emphasis on some words and phrases are mine) :
Dear XanGo Leaders:
Market leaders and innovators are often the subject of misinformation campaigns by frustrated or unprofessional competitors. Such is the case for XanGo, creator of the mangosteen beverage category and its leading product, XanGo(tm) Juice. XanGo's phenomenal success makes us a target for struggling competitors.
New Vision's statement of May 16, 2005, is just the latest in a sad string of misinformation.
XanGo's Patent Reexamination
In its statement, New Vision suggests that the United States Patent & Trademark Office (USPTO) has completed the reexamination of XanGo's patent (U.S. Patent No. 6,730,333), and that XanGo's patent is no longer valid.
This is reckless and incorrect. Those who understand the patent process can attest that the reexamination proceeding in the USPTO is a lengthy process and did not conclude with the "final" action. Indeed, a "final" rejection is not fully upheld in the vast majority of reexamination proceedings.
A diagram of the reexamination process, which further refutes New Vision's statement, is shown on the U.S. Patent Office web site at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mp ... 0_2201.htm
XanGo remains confident in a favorable outcome from the reexamination proceeding. Most importantly, while the reexamination proceeding is ongoing, the U.S. courts recognize XanGo's patent as valid and enforceable.
New Vision's "Mangosteen" Drink
New Vision is promoting misinformation about what is actually in its own mangosteen product. New Vision and Vemma, both owned and operated by Benson Boreyko, sell the same product under different names.
On the label for its drink, New Vision claims:
"This . . . formula is made in a base of whole fruit mangosteen juice and pericarp [and] whole leaf aloe vera juice . . ."
In contrast, in court documents filed by New Vision in the patent infringement lawsuit, New Vision claims:
* "New Vision USA's mangosteen product does not include as an ingredient any juice of any kind much less juice from fruit of a Garcinia mangostana L. tree . . ."
* "Aloe vera juice is not an ingredient of New Vision's mangosteen product."
* "Defendants do not know, and therefore deny, that New Vision USA's mangosteen product contains as an ingredient any pericarp, much less pericarp processed or ground from whole fruit pericarp."
* "Defendants believe, but do not know, that the fruit from which the powder compound is extracted comes from the species of Garcinia mangostana L."
New Vision is saying one thing in court and another on its product label. How can New Vision claim that its product is superior when it apparently does not know the product's ingredients?
In addition, contrary to New Vision's statement, XanGo has successfully partnered with WILD Flavors to produce the industry's leading mangosteen beverage, XanGo(tm) Juice. In fact, in its corporate publication, "WILD Telegraph," WILD Flavors described its "exclusive partnership" with XanGo as one of its success stories.
New Vision's Struggling Business
In addition to presenting inaccurate information in its statement, New Vision also fails to disclose the present circumstances of its own business.
Just three weeks ago in open court, New Vision's attorney stated that Mr. Boreyko had to funnel $3 million of his own money into the business last year. This fact is in contrast to Boreyko's recent public statements about his past business success. Based on the most recent Dunn & Bradstreet reports, the 10-year-old New Vision company has lost 90 percent of its sales over the last eight years, and continues to trend down.
New Vision's attempt at a mangosteen drink was in response to XanGo's category-creation success. Faced with such formidable competition, New Vision has resorted to its unfortunate campaign of misinformation.
New Vision's Commentary on the Morinda Litigation
New Vision resorts to misleading characterizations of a separate lawsuit, between Morinda and XanGo. That New Vision would repeat the baseless legal claims raised against XanGo by Morinda shows how desperate it is to deflect attention from its own problems. In that lawsuit, XanGo filed a counterclaim against Morinda and others, asserting claims for unfair
competition, false advertising, trademark infringement, unfair and deceptive trade practices, defamation and other claims. The only substantive ruling to date in that lawsuit was when the court sanctioned Morinda for failure to cooperate in discovery and for violation of a protective order. Based on that ruling, the court entered sanctions against Morinda and ordered it to pay XanGo in excess of $20,000 in fines and attorney's fees.
XanGo's Market Leadership
XanGo created the mangosteen beverage category and was the first to market with a superior product. Our distributors and consumers illustrate the truth. By any measure of success-be it meeting attendance, product sold, distributor enrollment, or commissions paid-XanGo's success speaks for itself.
Together we have built this magnificent success, and together we will continue to advance XanGo's distributor network, sales and standing as the undisputable creator of the mangosteen beverage category. It is vital that we all remain focused on those admirable goals in the midst of these attempts to distract us.
If you have any questions about further misinformation from New Vision or other companies struggling to keep up with XanGo, please call your upline leaders. Thank you for your continued contributions to our coveted success.
Sincerely,
Gary Hollister
Chairman & CEO
XanGo, LLC
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Dear Team:
Please pass this information on to your downline so that they do not get caught up in the lies and deception of the likes of B.K. Boreyko and his minions.
XanGo is now, and has always been based upon truth. We have a Corporate Team who is highly visible to the field, who has never deviated from ethical practices, who has always sought to protect and provide for the field and customers a superior, legitimate product based upon extensive research. Their combined reputations and clear vision for the future,
along with their superior product, not only interested Wild Flavors in producing their product, but this honorable, prestigious company was so impressed that they not only wanted to produce the product, but to partner with XanGo! That's amazing!
I have told you repeatedly in my newsletters that what drew me to make a decision to become actively involved in XanGo was the Corporate Leadership. In our twenty-plus years in this industry, we had never, ever, been exposed to a finer group of men, men with good experience, credibilty, honor, energy than our XanGo team of Joe Morton, Gordon Morton, Aaron Garrity, Gary Hollister, Bryan Davis and Kent Wood. We know B.K. Boreyko from our Matol days, we even joined New Vision at one time several years ago. B.K. had taken us to lunch, and invited us to the opening of New Vision's office that had moved to Scottsdale. I still have a copy of his invitation. He was very anxious to have us become a part of his team. We never built a downline with New Vision since it met none of the criterea we had set for the type of company we felt was worthy of our time.
Keep this newsletter, and when you have a prospect or a distributor who has heard the lies of B.K. Boreyko, you can then present them with the truth.
Please click onto the site in Gary Hollister's letter regarding patents and you'll see the process involved. Reexamination of patents is a typical process, and the vast majority of patents stand after reexamination. It is also a lengthy process, and during the process, the patent stands and is in effect. Bare in mind, however, that when Sherman and I joined XanGo, no
patent had yet been granted, and it wasn't of any importance to us. Very few companies in our industry have patents. As a matter of fact, what products of New Vision are patented? They are basically me-too products. Perhaps that, and B.K. Boreyko's tendency toward lying is why New Vision is on the decline, as in Gary Hollister's letter above reveals:
Based on the most recent Dunn & Bradstreet reports, the 10-year-old New Vision company has lost 90 percent of its
sales over the last eight years, and continues to trend down.
B.K. Boreyko is struggling to keep his company alive, but as they say, houses built on sand (or companies built on lies) aren't built to last. The first wave of water (or wave of truth) washes them away.
Put your track shoes on!
The great news is that this latest barrage of lies has really created a response that will horrify B.K. Boreyko, and the other two floundering companies....We were going to slow down a bit this summer and take it easy. Not now! We are charged up and going to pour on the activity by working harder than ever in June, July and August. So, we are inviting you to participate in this tremendous spurt of activity the way our other Leaders have agreed to do and are anxious to being. We will have more meetings, more conference calls, more visibility than we have ever had before. We will make production go through the roof! When you are armored in truth and represent the best Company in our industry, nothing can stop us! Our Leaders are filled with Righteous Indignation and have strapped rockets to their track shoes ..... they are chomping at the bit and getting prepared for the begin of our Rightous Indignation Blitz that will commence June 1st. Look forward to an exciting, fun-filled and productive summer! I will be writing another e-mail today with updates on itinerary and plans for our upcoming Production Blitz!
Dit vond ik op het internet en net zoals vemma is vemma europe niet anders ze liegen en bedriegen er ook op los ook ik werd slachtoffer van dit leugenachtig bedrijf en ik ben hierin niet de enige .
ze zijn gewoon een schande voor MLM
ever, ever, ever imagine any one of our Corporate Team stooping so low? Dunn and Bradstreet have reported that New Vision is in steady decline and has lost 90% of its sales during the last eight years and continues to trend down! That's what drives New Vision and B. K. Boreyko to make outrageous and erroneous allegations. He is scared to death.
XanGo has always ignored B. K. Boreyko's feeble attempts to damage XanGo, however, the lies have become so repugnant that XanGo has issued a release citing the facts, facts that are verifiable and irrefutable. It appears that New Vision and two other MLM companies, petrified at the stunning and remarkable growth of XanGo, have collaborated in trying to destroy XanGo Distributors' belief and trust in XanGo and it's credibility, and trying to frighten them into joining their floundering companies. Do you really want to be involved with a company that is in steady decline and that has lost
90% of its sales during the last eight years? No thanks, I'm not into booking passage on the Titanic!
XanGo works to build their business by presenting a phenomenal product, a fair and lucrative marketing plan, and by exhibiting the honesty, integrity and good character of their Corporate Team in the way that they manage this
burgeoniong company that continues to shatter our industry's records. New Vision and these other two companies are like jackals, hiding in the bushes, seeking to destroy and tear down that which is good so that they can feed on the entrails of that which they seek to destroy. But they have as much impact as a flea on an elephant's buttox! When they approach you,
just flick them away with your finger tips, the way you'd flip a gnat off your arm. You are in the right place at the right time with the company of the Century. We are the standard bearers, we are the originals, we don't compare ourselves with anyone else because there simply isn't any comparison. XanGo is the envy and at the same time the pride of the MLM
industry. Gosh, I feel like breaking into song....."We are the Champions....." I am SO proud to be a XanGo distributor!!
Let me give you the background of this situation and the birth of New Vision and Vemma's mangosteen product:
Unfortunately, a prominent XanGo distributor , who was also a New Vision distributor (and may still be), used deception to elicit personal experiences from unsuspecting XanGo Distributors about the results that they have received from using XanGo's mangosteen juice and asked these Distributors for permission to be included in recording them for a CD, a
tool, she said, for XanGo Distributors to use. She lied to these distributors....do you think she told them, "I'm going to use your testimonies to fool people into believing that you are talking about New Vision's product." Hardly. These Distributors would not have uttered a word on that CD.
She then approached the leading experts on the Mangosteen and Xanthones, Dr. Templeman and Dr. David Morton, to ask them to participate in this CD wherein these personal experiences by XanGo Distributors would be also recorded. The good doctors themselves are truthful, intelligent, with great credentials, and are without blemish; anyone would be honored to have them remark in a positive manner on a product's ingredients. Is it any wonder that this distributor wanted them to be on her cd? I repeat, the XanGo Distributors and the doctors were told that this was a tool for XanGo Distributors to use in the building of their businesses. The Doctors were asked to share the research that they had done on the mangosteen, it's
pericarp and the precious xanthones contained therein. Drs. Templeman and Morton are not XanGo Distributors, and are not employed by XanGo, but have independently researched this fruit and the xanthones and studied mountains
of legitimate research from other scientists, doctors and researcher from around the world.
This CD, in fact, was produced to be introduced at New Vision's Convention even before being made available to XanGo Distributors.....this tool was launched along with New Vision/Vemma product! As a matter of fact, this distributor called Dr. Templeman and asked if he would speak at New Vision's Convention, and Dr. Templeman declined. This distributor and B.K. Boreyko approached Dr. Templeman again, offering him one dollar on every bottle of New Vision's inferior mangosteen drink sold if he would speak at the convention. Again Dr. Templeman declined.....emphatically.
The New Vision Convention took place and this XanGo Distributor was escorted to the stage and was given much applause for her participation in creating such a great tool that the New Vision Distributors could use to build their New Vision/Vemma business. New Vision and Vemma Distributors have used this tool to build their downlines because B.K. Boreyko sent CDs out to his Distributors, and as I have heard, even after a cease and desist was ordered by the court, he continued to distribute them.
New Vision's mangosteen drink was built on lies, built on the testimonials of XanGo distributors about XanGo's superior mangosteen drink. It was shocking to the good and unsuspecting XanGo Distributors who had generously given their testimonials to this cunning XanGo distributor who used them, lied to them, and took their testimonials and with B.K. Boreyko, passed them off as testimonials for Vemma! They were getting calls from New Vision distributors asking them when they joined New Vision, or in the instance of one woman, when she had decided to come back to New Vision!
They were absolutely furious at having been so deceived!!!
HOW COULD ANYONE TRUST AND BELIEVE OR WISH TO BECOME INVOLVED WITH A COMPANY WHOSE OWNER IS A LIAR, WHOSE PRODUCT IS BASED ON A LIE, WHO HAS LIED TO EVEN HIS OWN DISTRIBUTORS PRETENDING THAT THE TESTIMONIALS NEW VISION DISTRIBUTORS WERE LISTENING TO ON THE CD WERE FROM DISTRIBUTORS IN THEIR OWN COMPANY, NEW VISION?????? Lies, lies, lies and more lies spew forth from B.K. Boreyko. And what about the credibility of this XanGo distributor who was a participant and the author of this deception?
B.K. Boreyko's product has been reformulated numerous times, and he even had the audacity to send a representative to Wild Flavors and ask them to formulate a product for them!!!! Wild Flavors turned them down flat and said that they produce the mangosteen product for XanGo, exclusively. Wild Flavors is a 75 year-old multi-billion dollar company, whose honestly, reputation, and credibilty is legend worldwide. They weren't about to get involved with the likes of New Vision.
XanGo has responded to the latest barrage of lies from B.K. Boreyko in order to clear up the confusion that he is attempting to create.
Below is a statement from Gary Hollister, CEO of XanGo (emphasis on some words and phrases are mine) :
Dear XanGo Leaders:
Market leaders and innovators are often the subject of misinformation campaigns by frustrated or unprofessional competitors. Such is the case for XanGo, creator of the mangosteen beverage category and its leading product, XanGo(tm) Juice. XanGo's phenomenal success makes us a target for struggling competitors.
New Vision's statement of May 16, 2005, is just the latest in a sad string of misinformation.
XanGo's Patent Reexamination
In its statement, New Vision suggests that the United States Patent & Trademark Office (USPTO) has completed the reexamination of XanGo's patent (U.S. Patent No. 6,730,333), and that XanGo's patent is no longer valid.
This is reckless and incorrect. Those who understand the patent process can attest that the reexamination proceeding in the USPTO is a lengthy process and did not conclude with the "final" action. Indeed, a "final" rejection is not fully upheld in the vast majority of reexamination proceedings.
A diagram of the reexamination process, which further refutes New Vision's statement, is shown on the U.S. Patent Office web site at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mp ... 0_2201.htm
XanGo remains confident in a favorable outcome from the reexamination proceeding. Most importantly, while the reexamination proceeding is ongoing, the U.S. courts recognize XanGo's patent as valid and enforceable.
New Vision's "Mangosteen" Drink
New Vision is promoting misinformation about what is actually in its own mangosteen product. New Vision and Vemma, both owned and operated by Benson Boreyko, sell the same product under different names.
On the label for its drink, New Vision claims:
"This . . . formula is made in a base of whole fruit mangosteen juice and pericarp [and] whole leaf aloe vera juice . . ."
In contrast, in court documents filed by New Vision in the patent infringement lawsuit, New Vision claims:
* "New Vision USA's mangosteen product does not include as an ingredient any juice of any kind much less juice from fruit of a Garcinia mangostana L. tree . . ."
* "Aloe vera juice is not an ingredient of New Vision's mangosteen product."
* "Defendants do not know, and therefore deny, that New Vision USA's mangosteen product contains as an ingredient any pericarp, much less pericarp processed or ground from whole fruit pericarp."
* "Defendants believe, but do not know, that the fruit from which the powder compound is extracted comes from the species of Garcinia mangostana L."
New Vision is saying one thing in court and another on its product label. How can New Vision claim that its product is superior when it apparently does not know the product's ingredients?
In addition, contrary to New Vision's statement, XanGo has successfully partnered with WILD Flavors to produce the industry's leading mangosteen beverage, XanGo(tm) Juice. In fact, in its corporate publication, "WILD Telegraph," WILD Flavors described its "exclusive partnership" with XanGo as one of its success stories.
New Vision's Struggling Business
In addition to presenting inaccurate information in its statement, New Vision also fails to disclose the present circumstances of its own business.
Just three weeks ago in open court, New Vision's attorney stated that Mr. Boreyko had to funnel $3 million of his own money into the business last year. This fact is in contrast to Boreyko's recent public statements about his past business success. Based on the most recent Dunn & Bradstreet reports, the 10-year-old New Vision company has lost 90 percent of its sales over the last eight years, and continues to trend down.
New Vision's attempt at a mangosteen drink was in response to XanGo's category-creation success. Faced with such formidable competition, New Vision has resorted to its unfortunate campaign of misinformation.
New Vision's Commentary on the Morinda Litigation
New Vision resorts to misleading characterizations of a separate lawsuit, between Morinda and XanGo. That New Vision would repeat the baseless legal claims raised against XanGo by Morinda shows how desperate it is to deflect attention from its own problems. In that lawsuit, XanGo filed a counterclaim against Morinda and others, asserting claims for unfair
competition, false advertising, trademark infringement, unfair and deceptive trade practices, defamation and other claims. The only substantive ruling to date in that lawsuit was when the court sanctioned Morinda for failure to cooperate in discovery and for violation of a protective order. Based on that ruling, the court entered sanctions against Morinda and ordered it to pay XanGo in excess of $20,000 in fines and attorney's fees.
XanGo's Market Leadership
XanGo created the mangosteen beverage category and was the first to market with a superior product. Our distributors and consumers illustrate the truth. By any measure of success-be it meeting attendance, product sold, distributor enrollment, or commissions paid-XanGo's success speaks for itself.
Together we have built this magnificent success, and together we will continue to advance XanGo's distributor network, sales and standing as the undisputable creator of the mangosteen beverage category. It is vital that we all remain focused on those admirable goals in the midst of these attempts to distract us.
If you have any questions about further misinformation from New Vision or other companies struggling to keep up with XanGo, please call your upline leaders. Thank you for your continued contributions to our coveted success.
Sincerely,
Gary Hollister
Chairman & CEO
XanGo, LLC
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Dear Team:
Please pass this information on to your downline so that they do not get caught up in the lies and deception of the likes of B.K. Boreyko and his minions.
XanGo is now, and has always been based upon truth. We have a Corporate Team who is highly visible to the field, who has never deviated from ethical practices, who has always sought to protect and provide for the field and customers a superior, legitimate product based upon extensive research. Their combined reputations and clear vision for the future,
along with their superior product, not only interested Wild Flavors in producing their product, but this honorable, prestigious company was so impressed that they not only wanted to produce the product, but to partner with XanGo! That's amazing!
I have told you repeatedly in my newsletters that what drew me to make a decision to become actively involved in XanGo was the Corporate Leadership. In our twenty-plus years in this industry, we had never, ever, been exposed to a finer group of men, men with good experience, credibilty, honor, energy than our XanGo team of Joe Morton, Gordon Morton, Aaron Garrity, Gary Hollister, Bryan Davis and Kent Wood. We know B.K. Boreyko from our Matol days, we even joined New Vision at one time several years ago. B.K. had taken us to lunch, and invited us to the opening of New Vision's office that had moved to Scottsdale. I still have a copy of his invitation. He was very anxious to have us become a part of his team. We never built a downline with New Vision since it met none of the criterea we had set for the type of company we felt was worthy of our time.
Keep this newsletter, and when you have a prospect or a distributor who has heard the lies of B.K. Boreyko, you can then present them with the truth.
Please click onto the site in Gary Hollister's letter regarding patents and you'll see the process involved. Reexamination of patents is a typical process, and the vast majority of patents stand after reexamination. It is also a lengthy process, and during the process, the patent stands and is in effect. Bare in mind, however, that when Sherman and I joined XanGo, no
patent had yet been granted, and it wasn't of any importance to us. Very few companies in our industry have patents. As a matter of fact, what products of New Vision are patented? They are basically me-too products. Perhaps that, and B.K. Boreyko's tendency toward lying is why New Vision is on the decline, as in Gary Hollister's letter above reveals:
Based on the most recent Dunn & Bradstreet reports, the 10-year-old New Vision company has lost 90 percent of its
sales over the last eight years, and continues to trend down.
B.K. Boreyko is struggling to keep his company alive, but as they say, houses built on sand (or companies built on lies) aren't built to last. The first wave of water (or wave of truth) washes them away.
Put your track shoes on!
The great news is that this latest barrage of lies has really created a response that will horrify B.K. Boreyko, and the other two floundering companies....We were going to slow down a bit this summer and take it easy. Not now! We are charged up and going to pour on the activity by working harder than ever in June, July and August. So, we are inviting you to participate in this tremendous spurt of activity the way our other Leaders have agreed to do and are anxious to being. We will have more meetings, more conference calls, more visibility than we have ever had before. We will make production go through the roof! When you are armored in truth and represent the best Company in our industry, nothing can stop us! Our Leaders are filled with Righteous Indignation and have strapped rockets to their track shoes ..... they are chomping at the bit and getting prepared for the begin of our Rightous Indignation Blitz that will commence June 1st. Look forward to an exciting, fun-filled and productive summer! I will be writing another e-mail today with updates on itinerary and plans for our upcoming Production Blitz!
Dit vond ik op het internet en net zoals vemma is vemma europe niet anders ze liegen en bedriegen er ook op los ook ik werd slachtoffer van dit leugenachtig bedrijf en ik ben hierin niet de enige .
ze zijn gewoon een schande voor MLM
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Beste gedupeerden,
Ik heb met alle MLM geprobeerd o.a. ACN, Vemma, Noni, WGI, Wellness, melalueca enz geen resultaat. Allemaal hoge investeringen. ar ik zit nooit stil altijd opzoek naar iets anders. Er zijn toch wat betere MLM waar geen verplichtingen en geen hoge investeringen aan verbonden zijn. Weinig geld kost!
Uit eigen ervaring:
2 maanden geleden heb ik iets nieuws ontdekt veel beter dan tot nu toe wat ik heb gedaan. Ik hou van dit vak MLM maar moet goed zijn en betrouwbaar zijn en moet goed lopen. En deze loopt als een trein.....wil je meer weten wat het is bel me gerust 0628278548.
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Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
En ook hier vindt sheela het nodig om te pitchen. Waarom toch? Gaat het zo slecht dat je op openbare fora moet komen pitchen om nieuwe distributeurs te vinden? Of ben je gewoon te dom om de forum regels te snappen?
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Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Misschien is ze gewoon laaiend enthousiast en heeft ze de regels helemaal niet gelezen.
Voor je anderen voor dom uitmaakt zou ik eerst maar eens even nadenken over hoeveel waarschuwingen jij al hebt gekregen terwijl je zonder twijfel in de top 10 van veelposter op het gehele radarforum zit.
Voor je anderen voor dom uitmaakt zou ik eerst maar eens even nadenken over hoeveel waarschuwingen jij al hebt gekregen terwijl je zonder twijfel in de top 10 van veelposter op het gehele radarforum zit.
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Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
@mannetje-wiens-naam-we-niet-mogen-vermelden-maar-waarvan-we-allemaal-weten-wie-je-echt-bent, misschien moet je je eens onafhankelijk opstellen, zoals je ooit beweerde dat je was. Alhoewel we allang weten wie je echt bent en je dat dus nooit zal doen.
Deze dame komt hier pitchen. Nu kan je het wel weer gooien op "ze is enthousiast" en wil het met ons delen en "ze heeft de regels niet gelezen", maar dan ga je voorbij aan twee dingen.
1) In de wet gaan we er ook vanuit dat iemand deze kent. Ondanks dat hij niet op scholen wordt onderwezen gaan we er toch vanuit dat de wet bij iedereen bekend is. Mensen die zich beroepen op "ik wist het" komen daar niet mee weg. Op dit forum kunnen we dezelfde maatstaf hanteren.
2) Hier komen pitchen valt te plaatsen onder "het ons ongevraagd door de strot duwen" en dat is een van de dingen die mlm zo'n slechte naam geeft. Jij die mlm zo geweldig vindt zo daar ook van moeten gruwen, omdat ze daarmee ook jou een slechte naam geeft.
Deze dame komt hier pitchen. Nu kan je het wel weer gooien op "ze is enthousiast" en wil het met ons delen en "ze heeft de regels niet gelezen", maar dan ga je voorbij aan twee dingen.
1) In de wet gaan we er ook vanuit dat iemand deze kent. Ondanks dat hij niet op scholen wordt onderwezen gaan we er toch vanuit dat de wet bij iedereen bekend is. Mensen die zich beroepen op "ik wist het" komen daar niet mee weg. Op dit forum kunnen we dezelfde maatstaf hanteren.
2) Hier komen pitchen valt te plaatsen onder "het ons ongevraagd door de strot duwen" en dat is een van de dingen die mlm zo'n slechte naam geeft. Jij die mlm zo geweldig vindt zo daar ook van moeten gruwen, omdat ze daarmee ook jou een slechte naam geeft.
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
.. terwijl je zonder twijfel in de top 10 van veelposter op het gehele radarforum zit.
Weer zo'n vage aanname die neigt naar laster en eerroof. Kan jij je bewering hard maken?
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Ze heeft de regels gebroken maar jij in het bijzonder bent niet degene die haar daarom voor dom mag uitmaken. Dat heeft niks met voor of tegen te maken maar met goed fatsoen en zelfkennis.
En met die paranoia moet je toch eens op zoek naar hulp.
Overigens hoop ik dat het niet teveel pijn dat de moderator je aangepakt heeft en ik hoop dat je beseft dat je met je posts nog steeds op het randje balanceert. Mocht je dat niet beseffen dan nu alvast: We zullen je missen.
En met die paranoia moet je toch eens op zoek naar hulp.
Overigens hoop ik dat het niet teveel pijn dat de moderator je aangepakt heeft en ik hoop dat je beseft dat je met je posts nog steeds op het randje balanceert. Mocht je dat niet beseffen dan nu alvast: We zullen je missen.
Re: Kinderen in MLM etisch of niet in VEMMA KAN HET
Tja, het woordje dom was er net teveel aan. Haar erop wijzen dat het volgens de forumregels niet mag is voldoende. Als ze daarna hervalt, dat is dan een andere zaak.
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Tja, dat lezen ook weer een vak is wat niet iedereen beheerst blijtk maar weer. Ik heb haar niet voor dom uitgemaakt. Ik heb haar het volgende gevraagd:jij in het bijzonder bent niet degene die haar daarom voor dom mag uitmaken
Of ben je gewoon te dom om de forum regels te snappen?
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Mag ik dan insinueren dat jij te dom bent om de regels te snappen?!
Jij bent immers degene die regelmatig de regels aanhaalt en ze zelf aan de laars lapt!
Jij bent immers degene die regelmatig de regels aanhaalt en ze zelf aan de laars lapt!
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We moeten jou dus lezen en taal gaan leren. Ik heb gevraagd. Niet geinsinueerd.
Doch het feit dat desbetreffend persoon in 2 topics aan het pitchen is geeft mij al direct een indicatie van haar geestelijke vermogens.
Doch het feit dat desbetreffend persoon in 2 topics aan het pitchen is geeft mij al direct een indicatie van haar geestelijke vermogens.
